"Rise of the Heretic"
Excuse me, would you happen to know how to get to Japan? I need to kick a man.
Now I'm not the type to fall in love with every anime I watch. Most series are a one time affair for me, though there's the occasional series I can't help mulling over and getting more invested in. But may Hylia have mercy on my soul, I think I've fallen in love with the wrong series. I'll stand by what I've been saying all along; Valvrave is undoubtedly a trainwreck, acronym and all, but I have always managed to enjoy the series highly regardless. However, in the last few weeks I've ominously felt the stirrings of fangirlism arising in the back of my mind, and I'm finding it increasingly hard to keep this series off the brain, so much so that I woke up very early to stalk the internet for this finale RAW. I'm not even sure what it is about the series that has suddenly got me so hooked; it's certainly not the rape or Saki's depiction as of late, and the rest is so weirdly, well, Valvrave, that I just can't put my finger on it. Perhaps I just enjoy drama, and perhaps I'm just a sadistic masochist (yes, both), but this newly awakened awareness only makes this finale all the more difficult for me to come to terms with.
Have no doubt, however, that this was a pretty great finale as far as mecha and action series go. If you came for the robot action and violence, by all means take a seat; I've long since come to accept the CGI enough that I can really appreciate the battles and how great they look in the style. There's plenty going on to showcase them this week, and between the kamitsuki fighting off outside threats and Akira becoming the fifth pilot to save Shoko from a terrible fate, we get more than enough from Sunrise in that department. Even outside of mecha, there's a lot of action to be had, such as the hand to hand fight between L-Elf and Cain, and there's never really a dull moment during these 20-odd minutes. But as great as that is, there are two things I can't help but feel unsatisfied with. Firstly, let's talk about Saki.
Now, before I start raging about this, I want to point out that yes, I get why Saki rejected Haruto's proposal. She knows just as much as he did that he asks for her hand for the sake of responsibility, and when you're in love with someone, responsibility is not the reason you want to be joined to them for life. As I mentioned last week, Saki has been behaving with a specific complex in mind, namely, the one I'll title "I've won his body but not his mind". I also already beat to death the fact that this particular complex feels very wrong on Saki as a result of having been raped; she should not be acting as if this was a consensual act and therefore free of any responsibility on Haruto's part, even if he truly had no control over his body. The fact is, Saki is a rape victim, and rape occurred no matter what the reasoning, and thus Saki's reaction is far too logical (as in, she's thought it through far too coldly) to be entirely pleasant. Now, keeping that in mind, let's go back to that proposal. In this case, Saki's decision makes a lot of sense; she'd rather not have Haruto at all if it means he's only being with her to make up for what happened, except, you know, she's a rape victim. This is not the place for her to logically consider her options; though Haruto never meant to do any harm, the fact is he did, and Saki deserves some measure of consolation for what happened to her. No one would have blamed her for saying yes; she obviously wanted to no matter what she said to Haruto and no matter her reasoning to reject him. She's constantly been the sort of character to place herself first, so why the sudden selflessness? It's as if this isn't the same Saki she's pretending to be, and honestly I find it rather infuriating that she barely even considers it before turning him down. Perhaps she does it so as not to force him to be at her side because she really loves him? I don't buy it; look at the subtle guilt trip she tried to lead him down last episode. Perhaps such a huge commitment really just made her realize how unsatisfying it would be to be married to someone because of a rape, but again, she should be far more emotional about the whole affair, and because she loves him and because he wronged her, she had every right to accept. Instead she's made herself into something of a victim on purpose, seemingly sure she's let Haruto off the hook so he can go back to Saki and be happy. Sure, a marriage without love wouldn't have been so nice, but Haruto still cares for Saki, and Saki definitely wanted to say yes; besides, I hardly see Haruto abandoning what he sees as his responsibility here even if she's denied him this chance. Haruto's proven himself the sort of guy who would pledge himself as her damn knight if it meant he got to do something for the girl he wronged, and I don't doubt we haven't seen the last of this complicated relationship.
As for the second thing, I don't have quite as much rage stored up here as I do angst and impatience. We've always known that Valvrave was a ridiculous series when it came to plot, but I always expected some small level of resolution before we left off for the split-cour break. I fully expected a lack of answers to our already established mythology, so that isn't really the issue. No, the issue is that this episode lays the mysteries thicker than cream one on top of another up to the very last moment. We get a second glimpse of future Saki, for one thing, telling the story of Module 77 to a little boy who looks suspiciously like L-Elf 211 years in the future, and I'd be daft if I didn't catch the locket pan, the mention of "The Founder", and the foreshadowing as to the fact that what Haruto and the others are getting themselves into is no less than history taking a dramatic turn. I have no clue what any of that means right now, true, but that's already enough question marks raised without even spending more than a minute or two on the scene. Then there's all of Cain's actions at the end. We've known for a while that he's known far more than he's been privy to reveal, but now things have just gotten downright crazy. He seems to be a kamitsuki of an earlier generation, or so I assume considering he is able to pilot a Valvrave, one with an Operating System like our own diabolical Valvrave-chan. That she calls this "Blue" her Onii-chan is less surprising than the fact that the action literally comes to a halt right there, in the midst of battle, with all the possible answers at our fingertips. This is one nasty cliffhanger, one I can't be on board with no matter how much I enjoyed the episode, and I'm rather mortified to think I'll have to think about this for a whole three months before I get to watch the second season. It's horribly cruel of Sunrise, and I've never been so slighted as a fan as when Astral Ocean's finale was delayed over a month.
So the verdict? I hate myself but, somehow, unexplainably and masochistically, I'm ostensibly smitten. I am going to die waiting for season two.
N.B.: Thanks to Ivan for the caps! I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL MY FRIEND!
Have no doubt, however, that this was a pretty great finale as far as mecha and action series go. If you came for the robot action and violence, by all means take a seat; I've long since come to accept the CGI enough that I can really appreciate the battles and how great they look in the style. There's plenty going on to showcase them this week, and between the kamitsuki fighting off outside threats and Akira becoming the fifth pilot to save Shoko from a terrible fate, we get more than enough from Sunrise in that department. Even outside of mecha, there's a lot of action to be had, such as the hand to hand fight between L-Elf and Cain, and there's never really a dull moment during these 20-odd minutes. But as great as that is, there are two things I can't help but feel unsatisfied with. Firstly, let's talk about Saki.
Now, before I start raging about this, I want to point out that yes, I get why Saki rejected Haruto's proposal. She knows just as much as he did that he asks for her hand for the sake of responsibility, and when you're in love with someone, responsibility is not the reason you want to be joined to them for life. As I mentioned last week, Saki has been behaving with a specific complex in mind, namely, the one I'll title "I've won his body but not his mind". I also already beat to death the fact that this particular complex feels very wrong on Saki as a result of having been raped; she should not be acting as if this was a consensual act and therefore free of any responsibility on Haruto's part, even if he truly had no control over his body. The fact is, Saki is a rape victim, and rape occurred no matter what the reasoning, and thus Saki's reaction is far too logical (as in, she's thought it through far too coldly) to be entirely pleasant. Now, keeping that in mind, let's go back to that proposal. In this case, Saki's decision makes a lot of sense; she'd rather not have Haruto at all if it means he's only being with her to make up for what happened, except, you know, she's a rape victim. This is not the place for her to logically consider her options; though Haruto never meant to do any harm, the fact is he did, and Saki deserves some measure of consolation for what happened to her. No one would have blamed her for saying yes; she obviously wanted to no matter what she said to Haruto and no matter her reasoning to reject him. She's constantly been the sort of character to place herself first, so why the sudden selflessness? It's as if this isn't the same Saki she's pretending to be, and honestly I find it rather infuriating that she barely even considers it before turning him down. Perhaps she does it so as not to force him to be at her side because she really loves him? I don't buy it; look at the subtle guilt trip she tried to lead him down last episode. Perhaps such a huge commitment really just made her realize how unsatisfying it would be to be married to someone because of a rape, but again, she should be far more emotional about the whole affair, and because she loves him and because he wronged her, she had every right to accept. Instead she's made herself into something of a victim on purpose, seemingly sure she's let Haruto off the hook so he can go back to Saki and be happy. Sure, a marriage without love wouldn't have been so nice, but Haruto still cares for Saki, and Saki definitely wanted to say yes; besides, I hardly see Haruto abandoning what he sees as his responsibility here even if she's denied him this chance. Haruto's proven himself the sort of guy who would pledge himself as her damn knight if it meant he got to do something for the girl he wronged, and I don't doubt we haven't seen the last of this complicated relationship.
As for the second thing, I don't have quite as much rage stored up here as I do angst and impatience. We've always known that Valvrave was a ridiculous series when it came to plot, but I always expected some small level of resolution before we left off for the split-cour break. I fully expected a lack of answers to our already established mythology, so that isn't really the issue. No, the issue is that this episode lays the mysteries thicker than cream one on top of another up to the very last moment. We get a second glimpse of future Saki, for one thing, telling the story of Module 77 to a little boy who looks suspiciously like L-Elf 211 years in the future, and I'd be daft if I didn't catch the locket pan, the mention of "The Founder", and the foreshadowing as to the fact that what Haruto and the others are getting themselves into is no less than history taking a dramatic turn. I have no clue what any of that means right now, true, but that's already enough question marks raised without even spending more than a minute or two on the scene. Then there's all of Cain's actions at the end. We've known for a while that he's known far more than he's been privy to reveal, but now things have just gotten downright crazy. He seems to be a kamitsuki of an earlier generation, or so I assume considering he is able to pilot a Valvrave, one with an Operating System like our own diabolical Valvrave-chan. That she calls this "Blue" her Onii-chan is less surprising than the fact that the action literally comes to a halt right there, in the midst of battle, with all the possible answers at our fingertips. This is one nasty cliffhanger, one I can't be on board with no matter how much I enjoyed the episode, and I'm rather mortified to think I'll have to think about this for a whole three months before I get to watch the second season. It's horribly cruel of Sunrise, and I've never been so slighted as a fan as when Astral Ocean's finale was delayed over a month.
So the verdict? I hate myself but, somehow, unexplainably and masochistically, I'm ostensibly smitten. I am going to die waiting for season two.
N.B.: Thanks to Ivan for the caps! I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL MY FRIEND!
Well, I have to disagree with you about Saki's answer. I am on the Haruto x Shouko ship but my respect for Saki skyrocketed in this episode precisely because she said no. If she had accepted the proposal then she would have been using the rape (of which Haruto is also a victim!!) to win the man she loves.
ReplyDeleteShe knows that Haruto doesn't love her and he is only taking responsibility for the sex. That's not a good foundation for a marriage.
You say that she is too detached and logical but after Haruto left the hangar, she was visibly distressed. Clearly the proposal affected her but she kept a stern face and did the right thing. Saki is a good girl.
ಥ_ಥ Applause! Both Saki and Shoko are great in their own ways, and both tragic. Haruto doesn't mean it but he has been terrible. He didn't support Shoko during her most trying period even though she was always there to encourage her. And she had been so kind to tell L-elf not to tell Haruto about him killing her dad. Plus Saki lets Haruto off guilt-free by asserting that the rape was nothing. Both of them loved him unconditionally!
Delete*encourage him!!!!
DeleteAh but you see THAT is my whole point. You guys are seeing this the way SAKI is seeing it. I've already said she makes logical sense, and you are correct, such a marriage would have been built on a bad foundation. However, I am not looking at this from the perspective of "Saki the logical thinker"; I am looking at this from the perspective of "Saki the rape victim". And while I think she made the right choice rationally, this is the very last place I think she should be thinking rationally. After being violated and completely acting as though it didn't happen, Saki tried to guilt trip Haruto into staying with her. Those nuances last episode where she acted cattily? That was her trying to make him want to be with her, and for all the wrong reasons. There she was using her loneliness as an excuse, his guilt as a way to push him into saying he wasn't going to go back to Shoko. Perhaps she did it because she hoped he would love her after what happened, but that's also not a way a rape victim should think. Regardless of what she feels for Haruto or how complex the relationship and actual rape are, a rape has occurred. A rape is not just sex; it's an act of violence, and like any act of violence, it leaves some form of scarring. Saki isn't showing that emotional scarring, and when she rejects Haruto so logically, it doesn't do her any favors as a victim. If she had rejected him emotionally, perhaps, but this was not the case. Oh she was distressed, but for the entirely wrong reason that she'd said no and thus given him up because of this logical thinking.
DeleteI put myself in Saki's shoes for this analysis, and as a woman with a lot of rape history in her family, I am not at all pleased with the way she has been depicted. I don't hate Saki, but for me it is clear that her reaction was not thought through the eyes of the rape victim, and I won't condone that.
I found Saki's behavior pretty inconsistent in that scene.She was shown as this selfish yet self-dependent girl that did not hesitate to do what was necessary when the situation called for.It would be completely in her character to use the rape as an excuse - not to mention that she had the right to do so as well.Besides,Haruto could come to love her as they move along with their relationship.
DeleteValvrare,I know you're...um...Valvrare,but please don't mess up Saki's character!She's interesting as she is and if you really want to change her then do it through actual character development,not inconsistencies.
Yes, this is how I feel too; she's never been above putting herself first, so it would make sense if she did exactly that. This is what I've been meaning to explain, thanks for that. :)
DeleteI have to agree with 'Gohan' (Seriously?).
ReplyDeleteAs a guy who appreciates both Shouko and Saki, I've always felt the childhood friends would make a better couple, however, seeing Saki make both the less selfish and the more intelligent move dramatically increased my respect for her.
Let's be honest, Saki isn't stupid. She knows Haruto is in love with his osananajimi. Even if he likes her (probable), he isn't in love with her, and any relationship based on guilt would be a stumbling block for actual love to flower.
The way she turned her back on him, and how she looked afterwards, it was obvious this was a hard decision to make. But it was the correct choice.
Note response above.
DeleteMeant to reply here, I suppose I misclicked.
DeleteI see this as potential flag for a second and more appropriate proposal in the future.
ReplyDeleteThe side effect of rejecting the proposal (besides some karma points) is that she has (accidentally) left a rather large matter on his mind.
Oh Haruto isn't done. This I can bet on considering what type of guy he's proven to be. If he has to be her footstool he's not leaving Saki behind. Note that he never directly calls Shoko to be sure of her safety, for example. He doesn't know anything about her suffering at the moment so in his head Saki is definitely the priority for his concern.
DeleteAgain, she made the right choice but not for the right emotional response.
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DeleteAbout Haruto, He's drifting away from Shoko.. no.. he's drifting away from humans.
DeleteThe war, his own awareness of his situation, and even the new enemies he makes. They are all pulling him into their own world.
By the time he does realize something, he will have already changed too much. Mentally and physically...
If the preview trailer is any indication, he's going to take drastic steps that my accelerate that transformation
About Saki..
Keep in mind that she is dishonest to other people and even towards her own self. It's hard to take her words at face value.
I'm guessing that's actually part of the coping mechanism
She has to convince herself that it was something else, because if she start to accept things as they are her belief system might crumble.
I think the reason why she doesn't have the right emotional response is because she has not completely come into terms yet, with what happened.
"And while I think she made the right choice rationally, this is the very last place I think she should be thinking rationally. After being violated and completely acting as though it didn't happen, Saki tried to guilt trip Haruto into staying with her. Those nuances last episode where she acted cattily? That was her trying to make him want to be with her, and for all the wrong reasons."
ReplyDeleteThis is the difference in how we view Saki, I guess. She didn't consciously or deliberately trying to guilt Haruto into 'taking responsibility', she A) subconsciously and perhaps consciously wanted to get closer to Haruto and spend time with him, and B) Did not want him to 'deny' what happened, to 'erase/forgive' with a simple apology. Its rather hard to explain...
The thing about the time jump, if anything from Gundam Age has taught me, look for the child's eye's
ReplyDeleteAnd then you would notice the child has blue eyes, the same as Haruto, but with white hair like L-Elf's hair.
I got a sneaking suspicion that a love triangle is not the end for this.